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Geschrieben von djrlewis (Crew member) am 2007-11-10 03:08 pm zitieren

Ok, it's Saturday afternoon GMT and I've had no further PM's about it so the listener list for this week's boot (Gelsenkirchen) stands as per my previous post.

Hope everyone's had a listen!




Geschrieben von germcevoy (Site manager) am 2007-11-10 04:18 pm zitieren

agreed Dan. Everyone thats on the list should try and leave their feedback by Sunday night if possible. If hyou can't do it Sunday then earlier would be much prefered

Geschrieben von djrlewis (Crew member) am 2007-11-10 05:13 pm zitieren

ursprünglich geschrieben von germcevoy:
agreed Dan. Everyone thats on the list should try and leave their feedback by Sunday night if possible. If hyou can't do it Sunday then earlier would be much prefered


Yep. I'm leaving mine early tomorrow.

Geschrieben von germcevoy (Site manager) am 2007-11-10 05:24 pm zitieren

ursprünglich geschrieben von djrlewis:
[..]

Yep. I'm leaving mine early tomorrow.


I listened to the show on wednesday night. I'll leave my feedback tomorrow afternoon.

Geschrieben von djrlewis (Crew member) am 2007-11-11 01:08 am zitieren

Well, I said it'd be early on Sunday!!

Here's my take:-

Gelsenkirchen 2005-06-12

Observations:-

Generally a great boot. Deserves its 4-star rating on here.

1. Sound
Negatives
• On headphones the sound flits from ear to ear occasionally which is off-putting.
• Audience noise is a little intrusive occasionally, especially on quieter songs eg One & Yahweh (singing wrong lyrics, talking during song etc)
• Edges guitar varies from being very prominent in the mix to a little quiet
• Bass is a little quiet

Positives
• Despite the above it is all very clear and one of the better boots of this part of the tour that I have heard.
• Bono is very clear at all times
• Larry is very clear

2. Performance
Negatives
• Not so keen on Beautiful Day performance
• Miracle Drug isn’t great vocally and lacks a little cohesion (but the guitar is great, especially Edge’s solo), but that isn’t isolated to this boot. Probably explains why they dropped it for later legs.
• No Unchained Melody at the end of One which was a good feature at other concerts during this stage of the tour; BUT (see below)
• No “Shine Like Stars” on WOWY (not common on this tour though)
• You get Party Girl with absolutely no recollection of the lyrics by Bono!

Positives
• New Years Day is strong
• Love “No regrets, no tears goodbye” snippet at end of SYCMIOYO
• Edge’s guitar on LAPOE is some of the best I’ve heard
• Audience + performance during SBS is very good
• Very good Bullet, good snippets, but I can’t hear a Please snippet as listed on this site?
• Great little bits in Streets – “I love you Adam Clayton” and “Nice one The Edge”.
• We get ‘Do you hear us coming Lord” in One, which wasn’t usual in this stage of the tour
• Great The Fly
• Excellent snippet of My Sweet Lord at end of Mysterious Ways
• Audience excellent during WOWY
• You get Party Girl (Edge knows it at least!)!!
• I always liked the Vertigo encore (maybe because they did it at the show I went to!)



Geschrieben von fenderman (Member) am 2007-11-11 02:42 pm zitieren

Vertigo Tour - Gelsenkirchen 2005-06-12

It's been a while since I've listened to a 2nd leg boot from this tour. Nice return though. I remember this summer. I would sit in my office here in the States listening to Virgin UK Radio 1 hoping to catch an update from the tour. Great times. Great sounding concert!

Sound:
Sound fades back and forth occasionally. Overall mix is great.
Bono - Excellent
Edge - Excellent
Larry - - Excellent
Adam - Good. Bass it the weakest out of the four

Highlights:
---Intro - I'm getting those goosebumps. hell yeah! I love the fact that you get pretty much the entire song on this boot. It gets you in the mood. Love the guy who you can hear yelling "U2! U2! U2!" He's totally taken with anticipation. I remember feeling that way!
---Vertigo - All i have to say is this song is electric! definitely a stadium anthem. crowd participation is unbelievable. Go Germany!
---The Electric Co - man i love this song. i absolutely blew my lid after I saw that they were playing this song at the start of the tour. great return of a classic! edge has a mad solo here.
---Sometimes... - I don't think there was a bad performance of the song the whole tour! so much emotion runs deep in this song. you don't get more personal than Bono introducing this song and dedicating it to his father. It takes a lot to put yourself out there with things like that. Bono carries this song and the audience carries Bono.
---Where The Streets Have No Name - love the "I love you Adam Clayton" part
---The Fly - this one just sounds great!
---With Or Without You - the crowd is the highlight of this track, there's nothing like that feeling you get with thousands of people singing together. I love the placement of this track in the setlist. Perfect!
---Party Girl - special gem
---Vertigo - I definitely like that Vertigo ended this show.

The not so good:
---Beautiful Day isn't so great
---All Because Of You - just don't know what's going on with this song. In my opinion, they haven't matched the performance since the Brooklyn Bridge show.

Raiting: solid 4 star rating.
Overall this is a terrific boot. To me the show feels like it loses some intensity in the middle but picks back up after the break and ends with a bang with the 2nd Vertigo.

Geschrieben von germcevoy (Site manager) am 2007-11-11 03:00 pm zitieren

Gelsenkirchen 2005-06-12

Listened to the show on thursday night and these are my thoughts :

# Sound Quality

*Great sounding bootleg I thought (especially for a stadium recording). One of the better recording
from this leg of the tour. Definitely worth its 4 stars.
*With my headphone/ipod combination the bass from Larry's bass drum was just way too prominent
and made the listening experience a little uncomfortable at times.
*Pretty decent crowd participation. I don't mind the occasional clapping although the talking during
quieter songs was a tiny bit annoying.

# Performance

Ups

~Not a lot unfortunately. Very average I thought with no stand out performances.
~Liked the inclusion of Hear Us Coming Lord at the end of One. Not a rare snippet but nice to here
none the less.
~Despite Bono not knowing the lyrics I did enjoy Party Girl. It showed the spontaneous side of
U2 that doesn't raise it's head all that often.
~I liked Bono's 'Hold me inside' at the start of Streets. Different to every other performance of
Streets that I have heard.
~Bono had a good go at New Year's Day. He tried to hit a few high notes instead of just being
conservative.
~My Sweet Lord snippet during Mysterious Ways was decent (Bono did sound strained though)

Downs

~Still don't like Vertigo as an opener. Especially with the extended drum intro. If it just kicked right in
with the main riff then I would 'get' it more.
~All the songs were belted out in quick succession without fault but there wasn't a single
performance that stood out for me.
~Very uninspiring setlist.
~Bono didn't seem to get the crowd into the show very much. He didn't seem to form a bond with
them. He didn't play the crowd as it were.
~Beautiful Day was poor. As was With Or Without You. Bono butchered this song up until the
very final leg when he actually had a go at singing it.
~All Because Of You =


In summary, this show will probably just disappear from my knowledge. I didn't enjoy listening to it and I can't see myself ever giving it a complete run through again. Just very uninspiring. It lacked the nervous tension and energy of the 1st Leg shows, the relaxed mood and setlists of the 3rd, the emotion of the 4th and the awesomeness of the 5th Leg shows. In terms of sound quality then it comes highly recommended by myself but if your after a great performance then go look elsewhere.

Bring on the next show. . . .





Geschrieben von easports43 (Crew member) am 2007-11-11 06:49 pm zitieren


I listened to the show on friday. Here are my thoughts.



POSITIVES

- Very clear quality
- Some good, but rare snippets
- Party Girl was hilarious. It's always funny when Bono forgets the lyrics
- I loved this version of Running To Stand Still
- Beautiful Day was above average
- The Fly
- Mysterious Ways
- A great performance of SYCMIOYO. I'm not usually a fan of this live, but for some reason this version stuck out to me.

NEGATIVES

- Larry's drums drove me nuts! Especially during the songs with "Military" drumming. I first noticed it during LAPOE and SBS. It seemed to calm down for a few songs. But it picked back up with Pride. It sounded like he was drumming with two bricks or two pieces of iron.

- Miracle Drug gave me a headache. I don't think Edge was playing in time. It seems that he was off just a little bit in this performance.

- Boring Setlist. It was better with Beautiful Day though. I don't like Vertigo being linked with stuff from Boy. I would much rather see it linked with stuff from Achtung Baby or ATYCLB.

- All Because Of You should not be played live. It's a good studio song, but when it's played live it sucks.

- Just an average performance of The Electric Co. I think this song got boring or predictable after a while.



Overall, it was a boring show. But I'm biased because I'm not really fond of 2nd Leg Vertigo. I hate the setlists, especially with Vertigo opening and ending the show. Sure, it gives it that "Retro" feel, but it just doesn't work. I'd much rather see it opening the first Encore. Setlist wise, I prefer the 1st Leg and the last leg. And if they are going to play some old stuff that they haven't played in year's, why not bring some other stuff out of the archives to mix it up? How about 11OCTT or Twilight. Maybe even Stories For Boys?

Geschrieben von djrlewis (Crew member) am 2007-11-11 07:00 pm zitieren

That's four of us. Just reclinerman and Ali to come.

Very thorough reports people! They can be discussed more once the other's have had their say I guess.

Not that there's a lot to say, seems to be a general consensus of opinion so far.....

Geschrieben von germcevoy (Site manager) am 2007-11-11 07:02 pm zitieren

ursprünglich geschrieben von djrlewis:
That's four of us. Just reclinerman and Ali to come.

Very thorough reports people! They can be discussed more once the other's have had their say I guess.

Not that there's a lot to say, seems to be a general consensus of opinion so far.....


Good that we actually did itthis time. New tour for this week. Shall we pick between us once everyones posted or just nominate somebody to pick.

Geschrieben von djrlewis (Crew member) am 2007-11-11 07:18 pm zitieren

ursprünglich geschrieben von germcevoy:
[..]

Good that we actually did itthis time. New tour for this week. Shall we pick between us once everyones posted or just nominate somebody to pick.


Let's see what the others think. Personally I think the one who disliked this boot the most should pick - at the moment that seems to be you or Nate.

Geschrieben von germcevoy (Site manager) am 2007-11-11 07:26 pm zitieren

ursprünglich geschrieben von djrlewis:
[..]

Let's see what the others think. Personally I think the one who disliked this boot the most should pick - at the moment that seems to be you or Nate.


thats an idea. Whenever it is my turn i'll be picking a bootlegI haven't downloaded or listened to. The idea of this is to discover new shows after all.

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